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		<title>Comment on Why Melbourne Sucks by takemeaway</title>
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		<dc:creator>takemeaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great blog this is, I found it after typing in &quot;get me out of Melbourne&quot; in Google. I am 33, I am from south Melbourne, went to a private school in Melbourne, grew up here, worked here etc etc and so on.  
I have had a gut full of Melbourne and I am leaving, I just can’t stand the pretentiousness, the crowding, the stressed infrastructure and the disingenuous characteristics anymore.    
I also can’t tolerate the booming population (that the moronic politicians we have to endure allow) that is crippling Melbourne’s job market, roads, streets, property market, public transport, etc etc etc the list goes on and on and on
 
I agree entirely with the delusional attitude problem that the people of Melbourne have, that has been listed here so often, and that the generation below me are the most unpleasant, selfish, rude, manner-less, scruffy, spoilt, ungrateful and generally intolerable set of humans I’ve ever come across. 
though from here, I have lived overseas and also travelled to more than 30 countries and spent a number of years away, not to say I know it all and have seen it all, but I have seen a bit and had a go, and I haven’t sat around Melbourne drinking latte&#039;s and savvy-b, reading the age and dicking around with my mates at the mcc all my life.
It’s not what it was. The best of Melbourne is behind us I’m afraid, so is Australia for that matter, weve seen the best of our country, but thats an even wider issue. I’m taking my $ and fu*king off down the west coast for a slower and more fair dinkum life. Life is just too short for this rat-race too-much-attitude bullsh*t. cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great blog this is, I found it after typing in &#8220;get me out of Melbourne&#8221; in Google. I am 33, I am from south Melbourne, went to a private school in Melbourne, grew up here, worked here etc etc and so on.<br />
I have had a gut full of Melbourne and I am leaving, I just can’t stand the pretentiousness, the crowding, the stressed infrastructure and the disingenuous characteristics anymore.<br />
I also can’t tolerate the booming population (that the moronic politicians we have to endure allow) that is crippling Melbourne’s job market, roads, streets, property market, public transport, etc etc etc the list goes on and on and on</p>
<p>I agree entirely with the delusional attitude problem that the people of Melbourne have, that has been listed here so often, and that the generation below me are the most unpleasant, selfish, rude, manner-less, scruffy, spoilt, ungrateful and generally intolerable set of humans I’ve ever come across.<br />
though from here, I have lived overseas and also travelled to more than 30 countries and spent a number of years away, not to say I know it all and have seen it all, but I have seen a bit and had a go, and I haven’t sat around Melbourne drinking latte&#8217;s and savvy-b, reading the age and dicking around with my mates at the mcc all my life.<br />
It’s not what it was. The best of Melbourne is behind us I’m afraid, so is Australia for that matter, weve seen the best of our country, but thats an even wider issue. I’m taking my $ and fu*king off down the west coast for a slower and more fair dinkum life. Life is just too short for this rat-race too-much-attitude bullsh*t. cheers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Melbourne Sucks by David</title>
		<link>http://jaccerz.com/43/comment-page-3#comment-1442</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2012 10:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melbourne&#039;s not perfect, but I really don&#039;t see why people get so bent out of shape. I visited Melbourne two times before moving out here permanently. Yea, people are a bit impersonal but I kind of like that fact that people aren&#039;t walking around with giant, idiotic grins on their faces. People are nice once you actually sit down and chat with them, but you have to put yourself out there a bit. Any place that I frequent usually remembers me and I have struck up more conversations with strangers in my year of living here than in my whole 20+ years living in Los Angeles.

Then people go on about how ugly the city is? As far as an Urban Center goes, it&#039;s absolutely  immaculate. There&#039;s the odd litter here and there, but not nearly as dirty as people make out. Go to Portland, New York or Paris and then talk to me about Sanitation issues.

 Transport sucks? Try LA. I don&#039;t have a car, and you know why? Because I don&#039;t need one. I can hop a train or tram (and less often a bus) and get where I need to. Cost of living is cheaper here for the sole fact that I haven&#039;t needed to pay for Petrol, Rego, Insurance or upkeep on a car. Compare that with LA or Chicago where a car is a necessity and you drive between 60 and 80 miles per day. 

Melbourne is dangerous yet some how pretentious and hoity-toity? Please explain that logic. The worst occurrence I could say I have witnessed was hearing about a stabbing outside of my work in Broadie. Again, try LA if you want dangerous. I&#039;m also completely unaware of the douchebags that everyone is so concerned with... it&#039;s a simple fix really; don&#039;t hang around them. If you&#039;re running into too many stuck-up people then you&#039;re probably going to stuck-up places (and by extension stuck-up yourself). There are plenty of little places to see quality performances; just because an act isn&#039;t world-famous doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s bad. I&#039;ve found these sorts of venues to be full of perfectly reasonable, friendly people. I suppose some people go to a city and have a way of finding all the wrong people and places. The worst I&#039;ve experienced is someone saying &quot;Go back to your country&quot; (I have an American accent), which I found ironic seeing as I was born here and all my family lives here and I&#039;m actually happy to be here. He was also a drunk-ass looking for a fight. 

As for the drivers... I totally agree. Melburnians are god-awful drivers and I&#039;m surprised the road toll isn&#039;t higher. Having spent a fair amount of time walking around Tijuana Mexico, I&#039;ve come to peace with near misses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melbourne&#8217;s not perfect, but I really don&#8217;t see why people get so bent out of shape. I visited Melbourne two times before moving out here permanently. Yea, people are a bit impersonal but I kind of like that fact that people aren&#8217;t walking around with giant, idiotic grins on their faces. People are nice once you actually sit down and chat with them, but you have to put yourself out there a bit. Any place that I frequent usually remembers me and I have struck up more conversations with strangers in my year of living here than in my whole 20+ years living in Los Angeles.</p>
<p>Then people go on about how ugly the city is? As far as an Urban Center goes, it&#8217;s absolutely  immaculate. There&#8217;s the odd litter here and there, but not nearly as dirty as people make out. Go to Portland, New York or Paris and then talk to me about Sanitation issues.</p>
<p> Transport sucks? Try LA. I don&#8217;t have a car, and you know why? Because I don&#8217;t need one. I can hop a train or tram (and less often a bus) and get where I need to. Cost of living is cheaper here for the sole fact that I haven&#8217;t needed to pay for Petrol, Rego, Insurance or upkeep on a car. Compare that with LA or Chicago where a car is a necessity and you drive between 60 and 80 miles per day. </p>
<p>Melbourne is dangerous yet some how pretentious and hoity-toity? Please explain that logic. The worst occurrence I could say I have witnessed was hearing about a stabbing outside of my work in Broadie. Again, try LA if you want dangerous. I&#8217;m also completely unaware of the douchebags that everyone is so concerned with&#8230; it&#8217;s a simple fix really; don&#8217;t hang around them. If you&#8217;re running into too many stuck-up people then you&#8217;re probably going to stuck-up places (and by extension stuck-up yourself). There are plenty of little places to see quality performances; just because an act isn&#8217;t world-famous doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s bad. I&#8217;ve found these sorts of venues to be full of perfectly reasonable, friendly people. I suppose some people go to a city and have a way of finding all the wrong people and places. The worst I&#8217;ve experienced is someone saying &#8220;Go back to your country&#8221; (I have an American accent), which I found ironic seeing as I was born here and all my family lives here and I&#8217;m actually happy to be here. He was also a drunk-ass looking for a fight. </p>
<p>As for the drivers&#8230; I totally agree. Melburnians are god-awful drivers and I&#8217;m surprised the road toll isn&#8217;t higher. Having spent a fair amount of time walking around Tijuana Mexico, I&#8217;ve come to peace with near misses.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Melbourne Sucks by q</title>
		<link>http://jaccerz.com/43/comment-page-3#comment-1441</link>
		<dc:creator>q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They say Australians are racist, and I don&#039;t deny there&#039;s a strong racial undertone, but the irony of Melbourne is that the nastiest, most racist people are actually immigrants, or children of immigrants who fancy themself as somehow white. They think they&#039;re above other immigrants and look down on those who respect their origins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They say Australians are racist, and I don&#8217;t deny there&#8217;s a strong racial undertone, but the irony of Melbourne is that the nastiest, most racist people are actually immigrants, or children of immigrants who fancy themself as somehow white. They think they&#8217;re above other immigrants and look down on those who respect their origins.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Melbourne Sucks by Mark</title>
		<link>http://jaccerz.com/43/comment-page-3#comment-1440</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason people are arrogant and rude is because there all incredibly time poor and melbourians tend to have a low tolerance towards bogans and uneducated types. 

it also sounds like ive never really lived in a big city, and lack necessary street smarts to make your time in melbourne enjoyable. 

melbourne is the only australian city that doesn&#039;t feel it needs to cater to tourists. Thats why its tough. you either adapt or vacate! 

dont be haters!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason people are arrogant and rude is because there all incredibly time poor and melbourians tend to have a low tolerance towards bogans and uneducated types. </p>
<p>it also sounds like ive never really lived in a big city, and lack necessary street smarts to make your time in melbourne enjoyable. </p>
<p>melbourne is the only australian city that doesn&#8217;t feel it needs to cater to tourists. Thats why its tough. you either adapt or vacate! </p>
<p>dont be haters!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Melbourne Sucks by Dave Strutt</title>
		<link>http://jaccerz.com/43/comment-page-3#comment-1438</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Strutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 16:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was born and raised in Melbourne, and will freely admit that it is not as cheap, friendly or safe as it used to be, but it still goes okay. Melbourne is not overtly friendly (it&#039;s a city, not a theme park) but people are happy enough to talk to you if you make the effort. Personally, I love to meet out of towners and try to make them feel welcome. I will cop the fact that the weather is eccentric, but spend a winter in London or Toronto and then come back and complain. But yes, the public transport system is a joke and the girls here are definitely too deeply embedded in their own arses to notice you. It seems to me that this comments sections has been dominated by a bunch of people who find themselves alone and unhappy in Melbourne, whether they be locals or new arrivals, for purely persoanl reasons. I&#039;m sorry things aren&#039;t going well, but I dare say you would encounter the same problems in any other city of the same size. As a teacher of international students I encounters these gripes daily, but for every one person who pisses and moans about Melbourne, there are about five who love it. Stop scowling and start smiling; Melburnians, like most human beings, might just smile back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was born and raised in Melbourne, and will freely admit that it is not as cheap, friendly or safe as it used to be, but it still goes okay. Melbourne is not overtly friendly (it&#8217;s a city, not a theme park) but people are happy enough to talk to you if you make the effort. Personally, I love to meet out of towners and try to make them feel welcome. I will cop the fact that the weather is eccentric, but spend a winter in London or Toronto and then come back and complain. But yes, the public transport system is a joke and the girls here are definitely too deeply embedded in their own arses to notice you. It seems to me that this comments sections has been dominated by a bunch of people who find themselves alone and unhappy in Melbourne, whether they be locals or new arrivals, for purely persoanl reasons. I&#8217;m sorry things aren&#8217;t going well, but I dare say you would encounter the same problems in any other city of the same size. As a teacher of international students I encounters these gripes daily, but for every one person who pisses and moans about Melbourne, there are about five who love it. Stop scowling and start smiling; Melburnians, like most human beings, might just smile back.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Melbourne Sucks by basel corboy</title>
		<link>http://jaccerz.com/43/comment-page-3#comment-1437</link>
		<dc:creator>basel corboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 03:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>melbourne has become a arrigant place bad drivers rude no time for no one !! they think rest australia revolves around them
oh best city in the world &#039;&#039;dont think so !! cant get coffee after a time except mackers or food even at lygon street during the week sydney yes ;;they not so snobby more helpful too
its dying city in many ways no water no infracstruture its all poor i dont care im leaving for ever ;; its better any were else
even at sarah dessert  good ridiance melbourne you all crazy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>melbourne has become a arrigant place bad drivers rude no time for no one !! they think rest australia revolves around them<br />
oh best city in the world &#8221;dont think so !! cant get coffee after a time except mackers or food even at lygon street during the week sydney yes ;;they not so snobby more helpful too<br />
its dying city in many ways no water no infracstruture its all poor i dont care im leaving for ever ;; its better any were else<br />
even at sarah dessert  good ridiance melbourne you all crazy</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Melbourne Sucks by dave</title>
		<link>http://jaccerz.com/43/comment-page-3#comment-1436</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 07:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>melbourne people are super arogant! the mederteranian people by in large are quite disgustingly rude aswell as the arabs here (Generalising ofcourse,but calling it like i see it) and they dont do themselves any favours by there public behaviour
public transport is quite behind for the population and is a very very expensive city to buy a home ,if you want anything slightly affordable and realistic to a 1st home buyer you have to move to outside melbourne (regionable) 
Traffic is F****ed! as soon as you get outside of your door there is a traffic jam untill around 7.30-8pm this is probably caused by the bad public transport that needs some serious cash injection and the food is expensive ..oh yes they do say melbourne is cheap eating ..yeah for maybe fried rice and kebabs and chips but other than that your paying $20+ for anything 1/2 decent and close to $10 for a pint ...Expensive much ,HELL YES!

Dont like it much here but i have reasonable paying job and my fiancee has a very well payed job considering how much she was getting payed before and we are in the process of building a house so ...we are here to stay ,so ill just have to suck it up but i heard sydney is much worse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>melbourne people are super arogant! the mederteranian people by in large are quite disgustingly rude aswell as the arabs here (Generalising ofcourse,but calling it like i see it) and they dont do themselves any favours by there public behaviour<br />
public transport is quite behind for the population and is a very very expensive city to buy a home ,if you want anything slightly affordable and realistic to a 1st home buyer you have to move to outside melbourne (regionable)<br />
Traffic is F****ed! as soon as you get outside of your door there is a traffic jam untill around 7.30-8pm this is probably caused by the bad public transport that needs some serious cash injection and the food is expensive ..oh yes they do say melbourne is cheap eating ..yeah for maybe fried rice and kebabs and chips but other than that your paying $20+ for anything 1/2 decent and close to $10 for a pint &#8230;Expensive much ,HELL YES!</p>
<p>Dont like it much here but i have reasonable paying job and my fiancee has a very well payed job considering how much she was getting payed before and we are in the process of building a house so &#8230;we are here to stay ,so ill just have to suck it up but i heard sydney is much worse</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Melbourne Sucks by Wayne</title>
		<link>http://jaccerz.com/43/comment-page-3#comment-1435</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 05:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I moved to Melbourne from the U.S. 7 years ago.  It is the worst, ugliest, city I have ever laid eyes on.  I have 2 years left here and will be leaving, thank god!  It is not about the people!.  It is the culture.  How can AFL be that exciting!  Shopping and fashion is great for the princesses or the girls that like to be dressed like whores.  Don&#039;t people get sick of drinking and gambling?  There is nowhere pretty to go do anything for free! (sorry, the Dandenongs are not that nice) I feel sorry for anyone who has been stuck in this ugly, expensive city.  The only people who would like it here would have to be people with lots of $$$$$$ or people who know no different.  People who don&#039;t have a good job or family $$$ would be struggling just to live at the poverty line.  Most liveable city???? What a joke!  Can&#039;t wait to leave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I moved to Melbourne from the U.S. 7 years ago.  It is the worst, ugliest, city I have ever laid eyes on.  I have 2 years left here and will be leaving, thank god!  It is not about the people!.  It is the culture.  How can AFL be that exciting!  Shopping and fashion is great for the princesses or the girls that like to be dressed like whores.  Don&#8217;t people get sick of drinking and gambling?  There is nowhere pretty to go do anything for free! (sorry, the Dandenongs are not that nice) I feel sorry for anyone who has been stuck in this ugly, expensive city.  The only people who would like it here would have to be people with lots of $$$$$$ or people who know no different.  People who don&#8217;t have a good job or family $$$ would be struggling just to live at the poverty line.  Most liveable city???? What a joke!  Can&#8217;t wait to leave.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Melbourne Sucks by Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasnt going to reply but thought I would. I moved to Melbourne 3.5 years ago from Ireland. There are problems, driving is shocking there is no respect on the roads at all drivers cant use merging lanes, for example in Ireland/UK if someone is trying to merge and you move into the next lane they thank you for it, here they think you are doing it to stay ahead of them and cut you up. I feel like making them stop and saying I was just letting you merge you F***ing ass***e, but that would probably end up with me draging them out of the car.... so now I just follow suit with everone else and be ignorant. But I have had people cut me up driving into KFC car park and then hold the door open for me on the way in! Fine to be ignorant when they are behind the wheel safely in their 5.0lt v8 car where no one can say anything to them.

Apart from the driving the other problems of drink, drugs, teenagers thinking that everything should be laid on a plate for them or the results from a survey of university students thinking that they will earn $90k starting salary with a basic degree in business studies or IT, dream on.... these are all over the world. There are some great events in Melbourne that are taken for granted, sport (F1, V8&#039;s, superbikes, tennis,etc) that are all world class. Every big artist in the world plays here and its all easy to get to.

The thing that Melbourne lacks is Soul or some drive. Everyone forms their own little groups of friends normally based on their home country and thats about it. Apart from a few bars in the city you go into a bar in the suburbs and all you see is some mid life crisis victim wearing teenagers clothes trying to chat up the randomly tattooed peroxide blonde barmaid. Not that life should revolve around the bar but its an indicator of life. I live in the suburbs but choose to live in a new area with a private residents club etc and have a good group of friends that we enjoy all the things there are on offer with each other. Yes we have formed a insular group but its the way of life here.

Its not that big of a deal to me the way life is here, the negatives are outweighed by the positives and we can afford things here that we couldnt dream of in Ireland so we would never leave. I would recommend Melbourne to anyone but you have to be prepared for the reality and willing to put in the effort to find your way here, no one will help you do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasnt going to reply but thought I would. I moved to Melbourne 3.5 years ago from Ireland. There are problems, driving is shocking there is no respect on the roads at all drivers cant use merging lanes, for example in Ireland/UK if someone is trying to merge and you move into the next lane they thank you for it, here they think you are doing it to stay ahead of them and cut you up. I feel like making them stop and saying I was just letting you merge you F***ing ass***e, but that would probably end up with me draging them out of the car&#8230;. so now I just follow suit with everone else and be ignorant. But I have had people cut me up driving into KFC car park and then hold the door open for me on the way in! Fine to be ignorant when they are behind the wheel safely in their 5.0lt v8 car where no one can say anything to them.</p>
<p>Apart from the driving the other problems of drink, drugs, teenagers thinking that everything should be laid on a plate for them or the results from a survey of university students thinking that they will earn $90k starting salary with a basic degree in business studies or IT, dream on&#8230;. these are all over the world. There are some great events in Melbourne that are taken for granted, sport (F1, V8&#8242;s, superbikes, tennis,etc) that are all world class. Every big artist in the world plays here and its all easy to get to.</p>
<p>The thing that Melbourne lacks is Soul or some drive. Everyone forms their own little groups of friends normally based on their home country and thats about it. Apart from a few bars in the city you go into a bar in the suburbs and all you see is some mid life crisis victim wearing teenagers clothes trying to chat up the randomly tattooed peroxide blonde barmaid. Not that life should revolve around the bar but its an indicator of life. I live in the suburbs but choose to live in a new area with a private residents club etc and have a good group of friends that we enjoy all the things there are on offer with each other. Yes we have formed a insular group but its the way of life here.</p>
<p>Its not that big of a deal to me the way life is here, the negatives are outweighed by the positives and we can afford things here that we couldnt dream of in Ireland so we would never leave. I would recommend Melbourne to anyone but you have to be prepared for the reality and willing to put in the effort to find your way here, no one will help you do that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Melbourne Sucks by donni</title>
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		<dc:creator>donni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 08:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guys, i forgot to mention, melbourne is one of the MOST expensive cities in the world..can anyone tell me why ?
there is absolutely nothing here. :)
oh , except for the yarra river.. joke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guys, i forgot to mention, melbourne is one of the MOST expensive cities in the world..can anyone tell me why ?<br />
there is absolutely nothing here. <img src='http://jaccerz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
oh , except for the yarra river.. joke</p>
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